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Thank you Karl! I am always impressed with your tenacity and down to earth ability to communicate effectively. SO appreciated. Your thoughtfulness to share your journey, lessons learned is a gift. ❤️ This article is for the records, a logical and usable protocol breakdown. Gratitude 🥰

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Interesting take.

Edta is all the rage.

It seems like all this work is people trying their best to fight a weapon from the future.

Where I get upset Is people pushing info like absolute truth, with never mentions of possible improvements..and sell it as an absolute antidote.

I've been drawn to your work. Looking to create more alliances.

Check out my Facebook page "Parasite Purger"

It's a page not a group. Don't get confused fuwed with "Parasite purge" group.

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Some people Have made significant improvements but you must not have seen or read them.

And you can get oral EDTA, its not all IV. Then people will try to repeat the common wisdom from the reference study in 1952 and tell you oral EDTA doesnt work or is destroyed by stomach acid, both plainly untrue. Do acids destroy acids? What happens if you put EDTA in a glass of hydrochloric acid water@3ph? Nothing, EDTA is Extremely hydrophobic until the solution is at a ph of 8 or higher.

And EDTA is all the rage now because it works and there is Extensive evidence of that. I have yet to see anyone else provide anywhere Near the evidence she does.

EDTA actually almost 100 years old and so if you go to sciencedirect, you can find literally Thousands of studies on it going back 100 years. Apparently no one does. Or considers that charcoal is carbon, which may be harvested within the body to Make Graphene.

To each their own... but something that has now shed to Everyone on earth and has proven properties outside of our understanding of conventional physics on Planet Earth seems like a very important thing to try to fix.

The Most Important thing on Earth in fact... so I didnt let a bunch of fearmonger articles stop me from taking the best solutions we have right now.

Im not a wuss so I didnt try to find what was the smallest possible amount I could take that Might have an effect, I started with the Maximum recommended dose and went up from there, because I have known this was happening for over 3 years now and I am not fucking around in the Slightest in trying to fix it.

The moderna patent for nanoparticles references other things that can help, like malic acid and vitamin E so if people are scared of EDTA then they can try that as well. It definitely doesnt work as well but as avid patent readers know, they dont put Maybe solutions in patents.

And you can take all 4 at the same time with no issues, EDTA, ascorbic, malic and vitamin E, which is only one of the improvements I alluded to above. Of course many people cannot follow instructions so they take oral EDTA wrong and waste it but it works better than anything else. And I Actually Know.

Because I have actually taken almost everything on that list, plus the things he forgot but which are important like Bromelain or glutathione or ALA. Bromelain gets into closed organ systems like nothing else does, which is why I found the best way to intake the most bromelain possible.

There are other improvements I have made too, mainly centered around increasing the effectiveness of EDTA since its the best solution we have but ultimately all you can do is lead a human to the knowledge.

And then to each their own... good luck to us all regardless.

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Thanks, how do you increase the effectiveness of the EDTA?

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EDTA binds with many many things, so if you take incorrectly, you could totally waste it and it wont work. Things like all food, dairy, some beverages and many vitamins and minerals.

So the most important thing about taking EDTA correctly and having it actually Work is to take it 2 or preferably more hours away from anything else it will bind with.

https://arizonanatural.com/blogs/news-and-articles/3-common-mistakes-made-when-taking-edta

Which also includes partially digested food in your gut, so if you want it to work the best it possibly Can, you can also fast and not eat any food for a few days while you take the EDTA and ascorbic acid.

You can also take other things that help as long as they do not bind with EDTA/C, like sodium citrate, ALA, NAC, glutathione, bromelain, malic acid, and vitamins D and E. And its actually Super Easy to fast while taking EDTA, much much easier than fasting while Not taking EDTA. Make sure you drink plenty of water of course but I wish I would have known that years ago.

But those are all mild chelators and antioxidants that cross the blood brain barrier and have different methods of action, affect different hydrogels, etc. Thats a point of contention but you can find out how things may interact with the BBB by putting any ‘Substance Name + Blood Brain Barrier’ into a websearch and then open up 20 tabs of studies. Or do the same thing at sciencedirect.

A lot of the evidence is inferred, since they cannot do physical examination or remove parts of a living persons brain but its out there for most of those substances.

So thats what I do…. EDTA is the strongest and best solution I have found and then I try to build upon it and make it better. Makes sense to me at least.

Next I’m going to try to liposomalize them and try to put them in a fruit pectin gummy for added effect and potentially better absorption but I still need beakers for my new ultrasonic machine.

To each their own though, and good luck to you in any case.

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Thanks. I take it at bedtime, normally about 3h after dinner. Then take a teaspoon of sodium citrate on waking at 5.30 or 6am, eating breakfast normally at about 8, and remineralising during the day... have been for a number of IV EDTAs but have recently come to understand that the saline may well be contaminated with nano... also take mallic acid and ascorbic acid, but normally with breakfast though also on an empty tummy later in the day

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Global Healing has clean oral edta

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Yall happen to have a website or something other than FB by chance. I was removed/deleted from Facebook April of 2020 for posting the Moderna cv19 vaccine patent showing its 2017 application date!

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And the patent was approved 9 months before the plandemic as shown below:

https://www.veteranstoday.com/2022/04/11/moderna-vaccine-patented-9-months-before-pandemic-thanks-to-the-fauci-baric-manmade-sars-viruses/

It's even worse than that. MRNA was in development for 20 years and investors were panicking because it was obvious that the platform was a failure. That's why they had to use military psyops to impose it on the planet in order for investors to recoup their losses.

My employer has videos showing business presentations where they claim that the injections were developed in 3 months in 2020 thanks to AI.

This global illusionism is going to crash badly at some point.

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Yeah that was a continuation of the patent. As it says. It was originally applied for in 2017. But who cares..eitherway we know it was planned. Unreal we have to deal w this bs.

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Try posting it to X as an experiment and then report back how you were treated there.

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Thanks Karl,

Is there any reason why you did not mention Raw Garlic on the chart?

My experience proves that raw garlic releases more than 10X the amount of allicin you get from processed, heated or cooked garlic.

I noticed it because you mentioned Raw Ginger!

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I was going to elaborate in another post on the effects of heating ANYTHING which contains enzymes or bioactive compounds. Substack has email post limits of course which is rather limiting. But are right, cooking garlic at 40+ degrees successfully destroys the allicin. The trick is to slowly warm the garlic in RO water maybe and let it soak out below 40 degrees and around 35 max i would say at a guess. But yes most people have no idea they are destroying bio active compounds by having poor quality supplements which have been processed, by mixing with other compounds, or by over heating. With veg and herbs raw is seriously better where medicinal properties are expected without any doubt.

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My raw garlic protocol:

1 - chop 2 cloves of raw garlic in small slices

2 - Mix with organic Manuka honey - I use a teaspoon of Australian Manuka Honey MGO 1717+

3- Wait for 30 minutes for the manuka osmotic pressure to release allicin

4- Eat the mixture.

It works! Since Allicin is not stable, it should be eaten before it turns into other sulfur compounds. I bet processed garlic does not contain allicin unless it is stablized.

That's why I always go RAW.

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I knew a guy who ate raw garlic the minute he started to feel tired even before the virus or bacteria hit. He was better in a matter of 24 hours. This was years ago, so he knew something we didn't at that time. The thought of eating raw garlic sounds horrible, but maybe the honey will help. Glad you brought it up.

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I know that type of person. Those who distrust the allopathic medicine tend to resort to herbal solutions. That has been my path for 30+ years.

When I asked people to avoid harmaceuticals I was called conspiracy theorist. Since 2021, at least 10% of the population understands why they should not trust Mr Big Pharma. Surprisinly, Mr Big Pharma has been planning the depopulation of the planet since 1965. So, my suspicion did not come out of thin air.

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Hey Nostradamus X, what do you recommend for severe pain, as in bulging disc or some such pushing on sciatic nerve? So nerve pain.

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I have never had such conditions. But, I know people who have made their pains go away using phototherapy - LifeWay patch X39.

These patches are NOT transdermal, so no chemicals are diffused into your body. Your body's radiations are reflected back into your body by the chemicals that they have in the patch. It's backed by dozens of patents and sold worldwide.

The reflected waves activate cupric complexes in your body that activate your stem cells naturally. Pluripotent stem cells then repair or replace your cells that have been damaged.

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Can I just gulp down a raw garlic clove? Will it still work?

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Yes but it won't do the trick. chopping garlic forces it to release allicin naturally and allicin is what you're after. if you can chew the clove that will do the trick, but the odour is another story. That's why I prefer using honey.

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Eat the raw garlic with ripe avocado in the same mouthful. The spice heat is cancelled by the oil from the avo. Just chew real good to let your saliva break things down, or the heat will track through your gut for a while. I eat 3-5 raw garlic bulbs a day.

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Important don't take all of those together or even on the same day!

I use Brave Browser AI search.

The key words to use when doing a compatibility search is, Synergistic and Antagonistic interactions between...

Also if you take meds search P-gP and CYP effects of...ie, Quercetin and ie, Valium.

There are other things to consider for safe supplementation, you will see them on my Substack.

Be aware.

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Take detoxers and chelators away from food or other supplements. They will absorb dinner and your other goodies. Quercetin isn't a problem for most and you can make it home with grapefruits and oranges. people claimed it was how to make hydroxychlorquine but is actually more so Quercetin. Always try spread supplements apart since life is too short learning all the interactions between substances, if they cancel each other out like pepper can destroy useful enzymes in food as well as help in other ways, or if it could have a reaction with you. Sometimes not all this information is even readily available without seriously deep investigation and sometimes there isn't any references to things that are not known. Generally though, most people do not have bad reactions to the things on the list except large cautions for chlorine dioxide, h202, and EDTA. these are highly reactive, can help, but will wear you down. Resveratrol got bad wrap in a few questionable papers but has had a long history of extremely powerful benefits and effects on disease with little known side effect (its often from herbs and stuff), Quercetin varies with the source, but natural forms or homemade cause little issue unless one wants to strike the rarest cases, we can all find that for everything out there. I am sure there could be a paper claiming side effects for water, lol. generally these items are not considered a scratch on most pharma drugs side effects ranging from mild to completely tragic.

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I agree. I take Activated charcoal on it's own for this reason and drink plenty of water and low nutrient, high fibre food for 24 hrs.

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I will be trying the activated charcoal, thank you for the list of possibilities. Your humility is the reason I consider you my most trusted substack contributor. I keep you in my prayers 🙏❤️

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Why thank you !

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Absolutely ❤️ it's a rare quality these days 🤍

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Purchasing activated charcoal in raw form is more cost-effective than Capsule form. eBay has 1.75 lb tubs of activated charcoal coconut for $20.

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Gracious 🙏❣️

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My pleasure!🙏💖

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Karl - suffering with Morgellons 11 years now. I agree with you 100% regarding Rife or any other EM frequency treatments. It's really bad juju and in my opinion, is the worst thing to try, even with the marginal effectiveness on the LYME symptoms.

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Yes, hydrogels, polymers, and synthetic materials if involved will have same effects in high EMF or RF. Bless you and your struggles. it isn't very nice, nor is the abusive that comes from fools who know nothing but misinformation about morgellons or Lyme

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Howzit. 2 things to consider that might help w morgellons my brotha. This one is more difficult than the later one I'll mention but years ago I've heard of someone/Doc who setup shop on Mexico border. He had/has a small room w Faraday cage. People with morgellons go into the room. He EMPs the room. Very high voltage. They were saying it cured them. They felt nothingas there's very little current involved. There was a video of this I saw about 15 years ago on YouTube.

Something to consider.

The second thing I'd most definitely do is to go to a carnivore diet. The health benefits are incredible. It will remove all inflammation from the body. This I know from experience.

You can YouTube Dr. Ken Berry Carnivore diet for beginners. This will get you in better understanding of it. In general Weve been lied to about the proper human diet along w cholesterol role in the body.

Protip: read the 1000s of comments in the videos thanking Dr. Ken Berry for saving lives and removing/reversing their disease.

Bless up

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Another benefit of the carnivore diet on this situation is that carnivores have no build up of anything in their gut, as all other diets do.

There is obviously a gastrointestinal aspect to this infection/transfection, so it stands to reason that people with nothing backed up or adhering to their intestinal wall would have less places for it to incubate and also make it easier for the things that help to reach the things we need to bind or dissolve.

And perhaps cleaning out the gut is Required to maintain clean blood, as all the people who got clean with IV EDTA and isolated from the infected were able to keep their blood clean by taking oral EDTA. The ones who did not take oral EDTA do not.

I do think a multiprong approach is required, complex problems require complex solutions but I believe EDTA is the best foundation to recovery we have yet found. All the fearmonger articles are bullshit, in my experienced opinion.

And I have actually taken almost all of these things, in high amounts after extensive research about them.

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Word! I think anyone with these Vax symptoms would actually become healthy again if they go to a carnivore diet. 90 days. Beef fish bacon butter eggs.

The inflammation is removed from the body and that initself will make someone feel noticeably better. I testify to that being my experience.

I feel strongly that this carnivore diet will have a big impact on anyone suffering from any illness including side effects from these shots. We need people with symptoms to step up. Karl? You happen to see this my brotha? Let's go!

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It can improve the symptoms of a lot of things and I agree carnivore is the best diet for humans but it cannot cure the shedding or stop you from getting the shedding, no diet alone can. Its a bioweapon.

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I couldn't agree more. Getting yourself feeling better is priority 1. For me Carnivore diet is step 1. Then cleansing and detoxification protocols. It sets you up to have a better chance at detoxification with less detox effects because your liver and immune function is now working optimally.

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Hey there Karl, thankyou for "finding" the time to stop and aggregate this treasure trove of "bests" so far I am sure has not only been on everyone's to do list...but this report brings it right right to the fore and in everyone's reach to ACTIVATE themselves in to their own power to do very meaningful measures and- make a huge difference in their own health !!

Not to mention, the positive boost it brings when ppl empower themself...self control is your best ally in these tough times.

Very very grateful you took the time to pull all this out in the open for everyone else.👍👍👍

Much Love, KK

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Karl -- my God this is one of the most fantastic posts you have ever contributed! Super fantastic work bo!

I have a suggestion for an LLM. I don't know if you know about Mike Adams LLM but he has one that he has been "detoxifying" for his lab (biases, etc) and has loaded it down with 20 years of his research plus tens of thousands of other research papers. If you want a clean AI, you need to source Mike Adam's solution which has been retrained on bona fide research rather than wikipedia. Download link here:

https://brighteon.ai/Home/

Mike Adams presentation of the AI with many more details here:

https://www.brighteon.com/9daec7ad-8dc5-44f1-978e-47eafbad7a9e

This AI has access to literally thousands of articles and literature and studies on health help data. You can use this to exponentially augment your supplementation and bio hacking.

When you go to download the ai you can see ALL the articles, studies, and literature that have been provided for use by the LLM AI. The sources are listed individually on the LLM download page.

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This is interesting I will check it out. All though I have noticed that tuned LLM's have a tendency to restrict or filter out some data so you may miss answers or correlations. Effectively I am prepping to use the API for LLM which channels my apps into the LLM directly on a code basis. How you tweak that app is essential and if you offer the LLM a database of preset information it can give you very biased information even if you add rules to stop it. I've been noticing major inconsistencies and the need to not make the app too intelligent. Everything has to be reviewed and taken with a pinch of salt. One of the issues is the personality package or API they have included in LLM's. Some of these logic algorithms effect answers where you want no conjecture and more enhanced focus on accuracy. I don't think the API is without this unless you program the interactions specifically at using crunch power. I will look into mine Adams software and give it a go. In theory using a vector with the LLM able to access all the data while asking it specific questions can be most effective and without some limitations of being overly specific (filtering). Also my app should convert images into data that the LLM cannot, but it then can compare that data with other data and draw reports.

Kindest regards and thanks.

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Karl -- my suggestion -- contact Mike Adams and tell him what you are doing. He is a scientist with a lab and an inductively coupled plasma–mass spectrometer (in addition to the ai project and multiple other projects). It's probable that he would be positively disposed to turning his ai to the specific problem we have here at hand, right there at the lab. If you guys team up and share your findings it would be ground zero to nuke this problem.

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We always have had our ears open and doors open for discussion to others. We have had big names in David Nixon's zoom meetings he posts out. But it seems many don't want to get involved.

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Interesting

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other agendas at play methinks

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Are all the Ai's going to absorb into one another's content and become one ginormous ...well...

out of human control..."entity" ? 😲

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Got the LLM in a neck hold 🤣

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Good man,.the humans fight back 🤭it's Fri 13th full moon and I'm walking in the park...beautiful KK

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haha, they are one, they are borg !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Just keep tricking them into submission✌️

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Sleep Data....Sleep

The challenge: Where and who is that quote from

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Well, it’s Star Trek Next Generation, maybe one of the movies.

Probably said by Picard, Will Riker, or the lady doctor-I’ve forgotten her name. You can tell I haven’t looked this up!

Pls tell me the answer, I used to love Star Trek!

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You may not believe this but a gestalt consciousness was one of the stated goals by Kursweil

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What’s LLM?

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Large Language Model. It is descriptive of the category of AI type you choose to run.

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Thanks

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Thank you - watching it now - impressive!

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Isn't all AI incl. LLM programmed to conceal secrets discovered in the criminal cabal's labs? This would limit what independents could identify?

Example: Reference data for Raman etc. spectroscopy methods. I'm no expert, but U. Colorado Boulder paper in General Conclusions" (cited today by Dr. Ana) says about "unknown compounds":

"Spectrum were unable to be successfully identified due to a lack of database accessibility in our system"

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That's more because we don't have previous data in any database due to compounds being invented on the quite and not be added. It is not a limitation of the LLM. The LLM is proving to come back with correct data assuming that you hand it the right data. There are some databases the LLM does not have access too because the website has a bit statement stopping it. This could be used on give websites where they wish to partition there data from intelligent platforms like LLM's and yes I see this seems to be observable. But the LLM at this point in time can compare data on peer reviews, chemistry, science, and draw correlations.

Regards

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Do I understand correctly, Karl -- LLM relies on data that its owner can manipulate? The cabal keeps secret certain things from certain groups (compartmentalisation of knowledge and granting access accordingly)

Mal- and disinfo planted into the "scientific" database and propagated en masse would skew LLM "AI" analysis results. The establishment rarely publishes authors in opposition to mainstream paradigms. Does LLM "AI" weigh-in outlier paradigms in such cases?

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good question

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I have a somewhat different perspective. Whatever is destroying our bodies and causing these various diseases is caused by stealing electrons from healthy cells, reducing cellular voltage from a healthy -25mv, (Dr Jerry Tennant Healing is voltage). This is better known as lowering the pH and creating an acidic condition. I believe only something technological in origin could cause this level of destruction such as nanotech. If we increase our oxygen and increase our pH we may reduce symptoms. Possibilities include baking soda, H2O2 IV, vitamin C IV, chlorine dioxide, ozone IR blood therapy, etc.

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Stripping electrons is a secondary effects. Not the cause. You are best not to be acidic by all counts and alkalizing shows to be far more beneficial for one's health than being more acidic. Cellular voltage can be achieved using salts and consuming water, low power pemf can help re-energize someone who has the salts and water trapped in their cells. But making yourself acidic is a terrible idea by all counts and is very well shown to cause hugely catastrophic issues. I've suffered acidosis and IBS, even the slightest acid will often mess you up or make it far worse to the point of pure lethargy and pain. Alkalizing on the other hand has helped with several disease symptoms I've suffered, and is also know to reduce the chances of cancer invasion. People today are already far more acidic than they used to be, which is why there is. Science based focus on alkalizing. I'm not sure being acidic helped anyone ever.

Regards

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I believe it is the primary effect. The devastation being done by the Vaxxx looks more technological. Since the virus has never been isolated there can be no spike protein from the virus. It looks like graphene oxide as per La Quinta Columna. It can be verified with Raman microscopy. If there is no nitrogen in the vials, there is no RNA/DNA. But no one seems interested. Without root cause it's difficult to come up with a solution.

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Activated charcoal was a game changer for me personally. Don't take a lot of supplements lately (taking 40 pills a day is not sustainable and who knows what's in them these days). But do take Quercetin, Wormwood, Milk Thistle, Dandelion Root and Oil of Oregano (best antibiotic ever...) consistently. We try to get all other "supplements" through clean food. And if you are on a public water system - I would not be taking baths to "detoxify". I could tell you stories (w/ receipts) but I'll just keep my mouth shut. Just remember Flint.

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No, you are correct. I hate showering in the tap water. I am fitting RO and shall post a vague system design up for people to build CHEAP whole house RO !Your on a winner, and yes charcoal is old school and functions well.

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What means RO, please?

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Reverse osmosis, merry Christmas

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I'd be interested in hearing about outfitting the home for clean water. ..cheaply. Bc one of the things we really miss is soaking in a hot tub w/ essential oils, salts and some tea or a glass of wine before bed. Talk about a great nights sleep! The crazies want to take away the simplest of joys from us.

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Hello, how do you take oregano oil? In capsules? I remember taking it in mouth with honey once in India, thought I would dye 😂

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We take it in capsules and also in an essential oil diffuser. You thought you would die bc as the toxins leave your system - through your "poop" - it can actually be very painful. I am Not a doctor - just my own personal experience and observation. I've had no probs w/ oil of oregano recently.

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DMSO is getting good reviews at midwesterdoctor.com . I have no affiliation to that site!

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If you looked at the formular and saw all the complex cellular interactions it has you might think twice. Our chemistey scientist friend was rather surprised. It's synthetic and a solvent of inorganic compounds. Hmmm

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DMSO mixed with essential oils healed a severe gum infection within 48 hours

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essential oils can do this often on their own. We have been dropping peoples long acquainted warts off with just dandelion extract. suddenly the notion that they are genetic or something else goes out the window and the likelihood of fungal organisms being the cause is evident. Dandelion is a very powerful anti-fungal and hence its documented action against cancer pre turbo cancer. DMSO, be careful. try stuff without DMSO before you decide it is the DMSO that helps. But yes DMSO does have wonderful abilities in many cases but should be used with great care and as little as possible inmo.

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I’ve taken it orally for pain, and it definitely helps, but it makes a person STINK !! That’s the only reason I don’t use it all the time.

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Outstanding work Karl!! 👏👏

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Thanks Michael, love what you do too. very hard hitting and unbiased in my eyes. Gotta love your balance of suspicions towards possibly fake saviors, I think we see things from a similar angle.

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Thank you Karl! ❤️

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Karl- Have you found a clean brand of activated charcoal & digestive enzymes?

What about Resveratrol?

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I honestly haven't checked the resveratrol since I don't have time to test everything I consume. But the charcoal seems to work from many brands imaging it is not blocked up with junk. It absorbs stuff microscopically which is a good sign. After all it comes from processed trees and doesn't need any additions in the manufacturing process !

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A good article and I thank you for all you do but not all EDTA is IV, you disregard oral EDTA entirely.

And your AI model would have ranked everything else similarly badly if you had applied the same "assume its contaminated" variable across the board.

There is extensive evidence EDTA Does cross the blood brain barrier, which is why it is one of only two FDA approved solutions for chelating lead, like they gave some of the schoolkids from Flint Michigan with the lead pipes.

https://www.environews.tv/012516-editorial-media-should-promote-edtazeolite-detoxification-for-children-in-flint/

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6429616/

And hundreds more studies where they infer it Does cross the BBB, like when they use it essentially cure or greatly improve neurodegenerative diseases. Is your supposition that EDTA is such a strong chelator that it pulls metal Through the blood brain barrier to bind outside the brain?

Its not new, its almost 100 years old, older than many of those others you detail in fact so there are literally hundreds of thousands of studies on it going back almost 100 years.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/search?qs=EDTA

And when you read many of them, as I did before I started taking it, you see that some people have taken Huge amounts by today's standards, like 27 grams Per Day for Over 11 Months. They didnt die, they didnt have any negative health issues.

No one seems to consider that nanotech might be harvesting graphene from charcoal intake, since graphene is a form of carbon just like charcoal, plus it seems like no one taking charcoal feels great. It harvests biochemical blood energy but it cant harvest Charcoal?

So how do you know EDTA Isnt the cure when you havent taken it? Where is your evidence it makes things Worse?

I have actually taken most of these things in High doses, like sodium citrate or chlorine dioxide. I'll save the specifics, but still alive, no issues. Of course Im in great health with no kidney issues, but Im proof it isnt going to kill you or put you in the hospital.

And there are other things that help, like nattokinase or bromelain, glutathione or ALA.

And the positive synergistic effect with multiple things that Can be taken together, like bromelain, nattokinase and curcumin, which work great but cannot be taken with EDTA.

I debated even leaving this comment since I like you and you seem quite set in your opinions but I think it would be doing all of our research a disservice if I didnt.

And as I have actually taken almost all of the things being discussed (except MethB), I also have real world experience with their actual usage, which not everyone has.

But many people who do not know any better seem to be taking this article as some kind of final answer so I feel the need to offer my dissenting opinions.

Overall I think you are doing great work and I highly respect what you have done, but I think there are points of scientific debate in here, to say the least.

To each their own though and good luck to you in any case, we all need it.

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There is no EXTENSIVE evidence that EDTA crosses the BBB. It is noted in certain conditions such as previously damaged BBB. Known undesirable affects would be known to occur if it did easily cross the BBB. I know top PHD specialists who are open and know the ins and outs of EDTA. They have read papers that implied it was possible EDTA passed the BBB but nothing tangible or consistent that could prove it significantly. You don't want EDTA in your brain. And yes, many people do have bad reactions to EDTA. I know of many people who had bad reactions or felt rough afterwards. It is not harmless as indicated by the toxicity part for which some are tolerant and some are not. mostly people are okay, but there are large numbers who report feeling sick from it and it isn't uncommon. Ill post a quick recap from LLM at the bottom since i don't have time to route through quotes in science papers or correct reference interpretations, but it is right. Please forgive me Bee Gee. I didn't quote suppository EDTA because it is only 43% effective compared to IV, and oral is almost worthless as most know. EDTA tends to be successful over multiple sessions, not one. It would take a long time for suppository EDTA to have the same affects as IV over time. The charcoal and other products win over contamination simply based on the fact they aren't intentionally contaminated by big pharma at the factory. I buy mine from small guys most often and not pharma companies. I know the clumping ability of the charcoal is viable so far since you can see it clumping in samples. It may be mildly exposed to this stuff already but likely comes from wood to coal to bottle. Pharma to EDTA is clearly a big no no for anyone who has seen the extensive pharma microscopy over the last 4 years. EDTA had its place and use, but right now people have shown it is full of the same stuff we want out and it WILL be attached to contaminants in the bag and it WILL be blocked from doing the same elsewhere once you stick it in your body. That bit is clear. If people could show me any EDTA that doesn't look as crammed with evil crap as the saline i would go get EDTA therapy myself ......honestly. The charcoal, the sodium citrate and most other stuff i take is clean and showed no large amounts of coloured particles, lipids, or gels so far. Maybe tiny amounts. Some supplements have been hideous but then the ingredients of green natural brands and pill capsules are often coming from............pharma! Under the assumption that EDTA is blocked with nano that comes free in the bag i choose charcoal,garlic, etc first! Its cheap, free in some cases, far less toxic than EDTA and doesnt cost 500 to 1000 a week in multiple sessions. Kind of a no brainer for me. Plus i already had people go get EDTA from Dr Ana and some said that they didn't see benefit from EDTA and that free charcoal, sodium citrate, etc seemed to help them more noticeably. I take everything with a pinch of salt, but there were messages people left on various posts about that.

LLM saves time: but at most little if any EDTA is proven to enter the brain in normal conditions.

There is limited evidence regarding ethylenediaminetetraacetic acid (EDTA) crossing the blood-brain barrier (BBB), and its ability to do so depends on various factors such as its formulation, chemical state, and method of administration.

Key Points:

Highly Polar Nature of EDTA:

EDTA is a chelating agent that is highly polar and hydrophilic, which makes it unlikely to cross the BBB under normal physiological conditions.

The BBB is designed to prevent polar molecules from entering the brain, favoring the passage of lipophilic molecules.

Calcium Disodium EDTA (CaNa2EDTA):

This formulation is commonly used in medical chelation therapy to remove heavy metals from the body.

Studies have shown that it does not readily cross the BBB due to its high molecular weight and ionic nature.

Potential Circumstances for BBB Penetration:

Disrupted BBB: Conditions such as inflammation, infection, trauma, or diseases like multiple sclerosis can increase BBB permeability, potentially allowing substances like EDTA to enter the brain.

Chemical Modifications: Certain derivatives or conjugates of EDTA may have different permeability characteristics.

Direct Administration: Intracerebral or intrathecal injection of EDTA could bypass the BBB entirely.

Experimental Data:

Animal Studies: Some studies in rodents suggest that very small amounts of EDTA may reach the brain, but this is often under conditions where the BBB is intentionally disrupted (e.g., with hyperosmolar agents).

Human Studies: There is minimal direct evidence from human studies to support EDTA crossing the BBB in significant amounts under normal conditions.

Clinical Implications:

Neurotoxicity Concerns: If EDTA did cross the BBB, there could be risks of neurotoxicity due to its ability to chelate essential divalent cations like calcium and magnesium.

Chelation Therapy: The safety profile of EDTA in chelation therapy relies on its limited distribution to the brain.

Conclusion:

Under normal physiological conditions, EDTA is not expected to cross the blood-brain barrier in significant amounts due to its polar and ionic nature. However, specific pathological conditions, chemical modifications, or experimental methods could potentially alter this. If you have a specific study or hypothesis in mind, I can help search for or analyze the data further.

Kindest regards and warm wishes

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Thank you Karl for all theese details. Have a good day.

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Oral EDTA is not worthless if people take it right, thats another old wives tale. You can easily prove its not destroyed by stomach acid and in fact oral EDTA might be Required, as the nanotech is in people gut too.

Which is why I also fast while I take it and constantly tell people how to take it Right.

https://arizonanatural.com/blogs/news-and-articles/3-common-mistakes-made-when-taking-edta

Most don't and many even take it with food or other vitamins or minerals it Instantly bound with and Fully wasted the EDTA. It did literally Zero and then people are like EDTA doesnt work!

I find it to be better than everything else on that list by a Factor, having taken them all in high levels and bothering to take them Correctly but to each their own, people either have to do their own research or rely on someones elses. You can give them the links but ultimately most people will ignore it anyway.

Good luck to you in any case and I hope the possibility it is harvesting graphene from carbon is wrong, for all of your sakes.

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Thank Bee Gee too, to tell us all you know about EDTA.

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I do recall Karl saying he has used EDTA previously, and other topic mentioned products but not continued due to no benefit found. I don't know why ppl feel the need to be so dismissive when we don't know each other's journeys or experiences.

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Oh god, i had green duck poo for the whole time and i felt no different. It just felt invasive of my butt comfort to be honest. I got the top brand from the USA forget the name now. Blue tub.

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Oh my gosh Karl you have me in stitches laughing my head off so much these days...you are so expressive, so literal. I mean that's an original " butt comfort"..duck poo ?!!.🤣oh how am I going fare walking amongst dozens and dozens of them on my nightly hike in a minute down to the woods .😂 They're everywhere ! And I spend a lot of time dodging just that green variety...face hurting now..good belly laugh too, made my day bro! Ha haa

Good medicine...see it does work on others 👍👍👍👍KK

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If i understand correctly because our water, air, food etc. are contaminated you would have to be taking clean EDTA every so often. I grew up watching people spend thousands of dollars trying to clear their blood of fat deposits. It worked and they never had heart attacks or strokes. My parents couldn't afford it and they had heart attacks and a stroke. Plus, these folks were inundated with pesticides and herbicides in the midwest. All ate GMO foods and see nothing wrong with it. If you have heavy metals it works for as well, but this seems to be quite different. There are metals as I understand it, but don't know specifics. Also, many other substances that have been found that EDTA wouldn't get rid of. This is way beyond anything anyone has ever dealt with and comparing this to what was seems problematic. Like charcoal doesn't EDTA also remove other good minerals etc.? If I were to do EDTA would want to have it done by a practitioner who could check my blood on a regular basis. Most people don't have the ability to test their blood and yet are convinced beyond a shadow of a doubt that what they are taking is working. With Dr. Ardis, Dr. Group, Tony etc. I want to see blood samples like we are doing here. So many people are cashing in on EDTA because people are desperate. I have been dealing with naturopathic doctors for years and now am seeing a Functional Medicine Doctor. They hand out supplements like doctors hand out pills. No tests, just supplements. I have had two blood tests from this doctor and that is more than anyone else has done. I told one doctor no more supplements until you test me. I was mold toxic and because he was charging me $300 per 30 minutes of conversation I said no more. What worked in the past might not work now. Even some of the best companies like Thorne have supplements that are contaminated. It is very hard to figure out what is best anymore. Also, what works for one does not work for another. We are all human, but are so different in every way. Folks that have been struggling with morgellons which is a terrible thing to have know what synthetic biology is. I listened to a two and 1/2 hour video that was explaining (doctors and scientists) what the clots are made of. These are not normal clots. They are finding tin in these clots and it is not in the shots. The only mention of any antidote or answer was enzymes and believe they will be telling us more as they are able. Our blood is turning synthetic and it is honestly terrifying. Without Karl, Dr. Nixon and others we would all be in worse shape. They are not selling anything and are not trying to draw attention to themselves. They don't need their moment in the sun like many people trying to sell their products.

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The reason what works for one doesn't work for another i believe is because of what you said before. They do not even locate a cause before they recommend pills. GP'S and naturpaths both of course. I love naturpaths though, because their general protocols address many issues that lead to a stronger function and recovery where as the western medicine is a complete joke which leaves many for missery or worse. It is logical that if seven of us have malaria and are correctly diagnosed then say maybe chlorine dioxide would have almost similar chances if not same in affecting it for everyone? That is the chemical take on it. Maybe some will suffer side affects and some wont. But if something doesn't work for you but works for someone else maybe you do not have the same issue or have a combo of issues? just a thought that lacks other variables of course. EDTA has its uses when it is clean and it has to be clean to work. It also pulls good as well as bad like you say, but i am afraid so does charcoal or any chelator not targeted at particular molecules which you do not require like mercury for instance.

The Japanese made a safe and simple drug to remove mercury and then banned it because it worked and of course that might mean they don't need to put mercury in most shots now :D It was non toxic too, reached the BBB. I know someone who had some left after they banned it. lol He is a dentists and keeps it to clean any mercury from him during amalgam removal. smart guy.

regards

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Printing this out! Thank you! I will read and and think on these things- so grateful for more specifics!

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gertie, can you tell me how you print here? I'm on Android and I see no way to print substacks unless I do screenshots.

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Download the GoFullPage extension for the browser you're using. It will capture the whole page as an image or PDF.

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Thank you!

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